• Dark Rhodes track - Melting Ice - Collab
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Don't worry, I always do that :) I am like the man with the blue guitar, and the sky is green (read the Wallace Stevens poem)
Pleudoniem: composer; bass guitarist; guitarist; singer; drummer; tap-guitarist - o, and yes... erm- a bit of keys. Open for collabs.
SoundCloud Page: https://soundcloud.com/pleudoniem


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Wow, @budhabuilding and @oorlab !!! ::headphone::

I think this is going to be totally awesome. Can‘t wait to hear what @Pleudoniem and @Mar T. are going to add to the project...

The vocal track you used was actually just meant to convey my idea. Amazing what you crafted out of it. (How on earth did you extract it from the instrumental?) But please let me record it properly. This project deserves a better performance...! ;) I‘m also going to add some harmonies, so you’ll have more material to choose from. And this time I‘ll send you the stems. As soon as my time permits...

If we use all three verses, the song is going to be very long. I wouldn't mind at all, though. With three different singers, some breaks and dramatic builds, I imagine it could even remain interesting for 10 minutes or longer. What do you guys think?

A female voice would be great. Unfortunately @Zedd is too busy at the moment. So I hope @Rachel_D will pop in soon again. Or are there any volunteers? :)

This project is really exciting, thank you so much Hans!

Cheers,
Mark


y'all try this?

https://soundcloud.com/pleudoniem/budhaproject/s-YjBwm

I added a bass and a guitar. Makes it sound more rock-like, but that is what frequently happens when you add a guitar.


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@Pleudoniem  Thanks for the hardwork. I like the sound of the guitar.   8)

For the bass I would love to hear back more of the groove... the 6/8 feel and introducing every part. Like the slide you used.
Did you use the bass with the dark rhodes to define the structure? Some of the notes in the bass don't follow the keys.
Like the second Gm is Gm with Es in the bass...  Surprise me.... :ok: :ok:

@Mark Luto thanks a lot and of course you can record your parts like you want,
 I just wanted to do something with your nice vocal idea's.   :)
(btw just added reversed phase instrumental to your recording to extract your vocals.  ;D)

Just let know when you had time to craft some excellent vocal part.

Thanks a lot to all of you for time and thoughts. @Mar T. @oorlab @Pleudoniem @Mark Luto
Just set all my solo  music free at https://budhabuilding.bandcamp.com


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somewhat off topic, but......@budhabuilding....how does this work?  ??? :o :o

(btw just added reversed phase instrumental to your recording to extract your vocals.  ;D)


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@Dutchbeat i just downloaded the version of @Mark Luto with 4Kdownloader of soundcloud.

Mark used my version to sing on.
 i added my version but now i inverted the phase

You use reaper so this knob..  :ok: :ok:


And this works also well with instrumental recordings on single cd's.

i also used to work with


But there's news .. izotope released this...
https://youtu.be/ynb-EW3yu5I?t=2m39s


@budhabuilding  I think it is much more exciting if a bass doesn't always follow the key notes. I am quickly bored if it always does that. Listen to Pastorius, he often runs loose from the key notes :)

I cannot play a groove if I do not listen to what it should be played to, so yes, I listened to the Dark Rhodes.

I hear a 6/8 groove when I count along. I am not sure where you're missing it when you're listening to the bass. I will try to cut some notes, and see if you recognise the 'feel' you were hoping for again.


@budhabuilding Changed the bass a bit. See if you like it better that way.


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Hi @Pleudoniem ,

I also found the first version of the bassline a little „adventurous“. I think I somehow understand where you were trying to go with it, but for my taste the new version fits the song better.
The guitar parts sound good. ::headphone::

Cheers,
Mark


« Last Edit: September 23, 2018, 21:12:28 by Pleudoniem »
@Mark Luto So no room for adventure in the Kitchen? :(

Although I must admit that the previous one was a little baroque. That is why I cut some of the notes. If you still think needs a bit of pruning, just let me know.


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There is plenty of room for adventures in the kitchen @Pleudoniem ! But good adventures are always a bit dangerous, too. And since this is a group trip, perhaps we should not venture too far into rather uncharted, exotic areas... ;)

Let‘s hear what our tour guide @budhabuilding says.


« Last Edit: September 24, 2018, 22:07:10 by Pleudoniem »
@Mark Luto I know there is room for adventure in the Kitchen, it was only a tongue-in-cheek remark. I thought you'd recognise it as such  ;)

However, for what I normally do, the bass-line wasn't so very exotic, in fact, I think it was quite typical; I play lots of licks in 16th notes, even in ballads. Nevertheless, in all group efforts, you first need to find out what works best. Apparently, a limited bass is preferred, and that is absolutely fine with me. Just tell me if it is too much, so that I can learn from your tastes and adjust to them for times to come.


But hold on... @Mark Luto , I have just received a new set of strings for my fretless bass. Believe it or not, but the thick low b-string of the set I used to have on it (it is a 5-string) snapped. I know that that is extremely rare on a bass, but these were tape-wounds, and apparently those can corrode and snap eventually (after 10 years). The ones I have now are nickel plated flatwounds that are not so likely to do this.

So, I might want to change the bass-line again. @budhabuilding wanted fretless first, so now I can do it. I will also try to prune the number of notes a bit and vote conservative.





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Finally found time to listen to

@Pleudoniem please do it with fretless and just on big wish: I really need to hear the notes of the orginal bass on the start of chord. So every 2 measures... This is because the keys doesn't play it all the time. I believe people can't imagine the chord when the root note of the chords is missing.

In between you could make lines like you did in the second recording on the second part at around 2 minutes.
Also i liked the groove/rhythm of the last up tempo part at 2.50

I love the guitar part.. ::e-guitar::. would be great if you make it first some notes and make it more and more.... maybe even noisy ::e-guitar3::

Thanks for all the work and input.


« Last Edit: September 25, 2018, 21:53:29 by Pleudoniem »
@budhabuilding I'll give it a shot. Could you do me a favour though? I normally play along with the chords, and I can hear if they sound ok, but I do not have an absolute ear for notes, let alone for chords - after all, only few people have this. For any song I don't know the chords to, I would mostly play within the chord and the key, but possibly not on the root note. So, to play it safe, could you provide me with the tab? That would save a lot of work. You know exactly which chords you used.



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