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Title: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on July 20, 2018, 12:57:57
Hi everyone, here's a rehearsal version of what i'm hoping to be my next single release towards the end of the year, If you would be so kind to have a short watch and listen and please let me know what you think. Any thoughts on structure or well anything would nbe really appreciated. As ever my voice is a work in progress, i'm well aware i'm not very good at singing lol

Lyrics
Here I am just trying to say
Everything that's come my way
And here I am still trying to do
Everything away from you
God only knows how long i've been waiting
For you to say to me
And God only knows how long i've been waiting
For you to set me free

Chorus
I can fly with these broken wings
I can touch my shattered dreams
I can climb high above
What ever I do is just enough

https://youtu.be/fF0X_jtcKT4
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Leonard Scaper on July 20, 2018, 14:55:38
I think you have a good start with this one. You are staying true to your style. I like the cadence of that first verse and how you take it into the chorus.

Your voice is unique and that is a very good thing. These songs are yours and it is your voice that helps to make them that so sing with feeling and don't get hung up on perceived quality.

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: revivalchoir on July 20, 2018, 20:53:53
i'd like to hear w/o capo.
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on July 21, 2018, 08:25:44
I think you have a good start with this one. You are staying true to your style. I like the cadence of that first verse and how you take it into the chorus.

Your voice is unique and that is a very good thing. These songs are yours and it is your voice that helps to make them that so sing with feeling and don't get hung up on perceived quality.

 :) :) :)
Thank you sir! Really encouraging words :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on July 21, 2018, 08:26:31
i'd like to hear w/o capo.
The song was written without a capo and the chords so sound better but i've had to use a capo on 2 to fit my voice really.
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: LePlongeur on July 21, 2018, 08:36:03
Don't know if the way you look a bit angry has anything to do with the music.
I'll try and better your weekend:
Hull 4 - London 0*
Kind regards, Gus





*The Housemartins
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on July 21, 2018, 08:52:59
I kind of have a resting 'pissed off' face lol i'm happy on the inside I promise :)
You have bettered my weekend anyway with that The Housemartins reference :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on August 07, 2018, 21:55:59
Well i've tweaked the lyrics and been toying with playing this in a different key, hoping it suits my voice a bit better. Please let me know what you think and if i'm going in the right direction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9siclrz3cCc
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Johnnyuk on August 07, 2018, 22:10:30
Hi Kevin,
Musically no issues here because you play that guitar just great!!!.

Vocally there are some very serious issues. Vocally these issues can be fixed with a decent vocal coach 100% in just a few lessons. Here imo is where the problem lies for you...

I have said this to you on many many other websites/forums yet you ignore that advice continually. :(

That is your choice to do so  Kevin BUT until you address your off pitch vocal tone to every new song that you post online nothing will ever change for you.

I can clearly hear your potential and passion for music 100% BUT can you or will you ever hear my SOUND advice given to you Kevin and then apply it???

Johnny :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on August 07, 2018, 22:18:33
I do hear it mate, i'm starting vocal lessons towards the end of the month, i'm well aware of my awful voice lol thanks for watching man I do appreciate it
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Leonard Scaper on August 07, 2018, 23:00:43
I listened to your WIP recording....see what you mean about that "pissed off" face. It actually serves to accentuate your performance.   ;)

While i agree with @Johnnyuk that your vocals are your weak point and could be improved upon, I stand hard behind my previous statement that your vocals have a very unique character just as they are and that character adds weight to your performances.

Some folks will never be mellifluous singers no matter how much vocal coaching they get. I, for one, have not let that stop me from singing my songs....nor did folks like Tom Waits and (dare I say it) Bob Dylan. (I said it).

Always seek to improve to make your music more listenable but never give up just because  of a perceived lack of quality. Our flaws are what make us all different and uniqueness is a big deal in this music game.

 8)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Johnnyuk on August 07, 2018, 23:01:30
Hi Kevin, your voice is not awful at all. The tone is there and the timing is right there 100%! You really do have a voice Kevin. It just needs a vocal tutor to get you to understand your vocal pitch to get YOU in tune to whatever song you write about. once that happens you will be flying Kevin!
Johnny :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on August 07, 2018, 23:03:33
Thanks so much guys really encouraging :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Johnnyuk on August 07, 2018, 23:08:42
Hi Kevin,
Take those vocal lessons and you will get stronger and stronger.
Johnny :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on December 23, 2018, 23:00:55
I knocked out a new version of this when I was recording something else this morning, would love to know what you guys think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wHdzQPB6b4
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Bill from November Sound on December 24, 2018, 00:39:57
Nice job @realkevm .  :)
It sounds like the vocal pitch is improved on the verse in this version. I like the chorus on this song as well. It's a pretty nice hook.
- 11 ::Note::
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on December 24, 2018, 00:46:48
Cheers Bill. That piano video you made me has really really helped me in understanding pitch and how to find a melody. I know i've a way to go but even I can see an improvement with my vocals. Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Mar T. on December 24, 2018, 00:51:35
Hey @realkevm , thanks for sharing! Takes some courage to record a 1+1 live WITH video footage!
I like the way you play the guitar, and the words are beautiful.

Imo there are 2 pointers I can give you to:
-The meter. The song sounds like a 4/4 , but I can hear some skipped measures, which makes it a bit hard to keep track for me.
-The singing style. It is definately recognisable and gives you (as a performer) a unique style. I'd work on singing the notes better in tune, and mastering control of your emotion while singing.

I hope that helps!!
Again, thanks for sharing and I hope you'll collect some valuable tips from us kitcheners!
Cheers,
Mar T
:mart:
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on December 24, 2018, 01:10:33
Thanks for checking it out dude, sound advice aswell. A couple of things for me to focus on :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Mar T. on December 25, 2018, 00:54:56
As long as you promise me you'll keep doing what you do @realkevm , I'm sure we'll be amazed what we hear from your camp next year. Was glad to be of help!!
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: M57 on December 25, 2018, 02:02:17
You've got the right idea. Keep moving that capo down..

I like the chorus.  What is probably most impressive about it is that the first three lines of the chorus are in 7/8, and the last in 4/4.  I think you dropped a beat somewhere in one of them, but otherwise it's pretty consistent.  Gonna have to learn how to use a drum machine if you don't already know how.
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: Mora Amaro La Loba on December 28, 2018, 19:48:01
I liked your song because of the lyrics and the way you sing it, "without net" as we say in Spanish. Your voice, as @Leonard Scaper says, is truly original.
Happy New Year.
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on December 31, 2018, 17:03:59
You've got the right idea. Keep moving that capo down..

I like the chorus.  What is probably most impressive about it is that the first three lines of the chorus are in 7/8, and the last in 4/4.  I think you dropped a beat somewhere in one of them, but otherwise it's pretty consistent.  Gonna have to learn how to use a drum machine if you don't already know how.
ha yes! took me a while to figure out about changing the key to try and suit my voice, I am a bit dim sometimes lol Timing has never been a strong suit of mine, I really appreciate you taking the time to listen and to point this out to me, something to work on here, thank you :)
Title: Re: Work in progress: 'Just Enough'
Post by: realkevm on December 31, 2018, 17:05:03
I liked your song because of the lyrics and the way you sing it, "without net" as we say in Spanish. Your voice, as @Leonard Scaper says, is truly original.
Happy New Year.
Mucho gracias Mora, thanks for checking it out :)