Suggestions for Gypsy Cafe Music!

Heya peeps, there's not much going on in the hospo world out there! Restaurants can't open yet, but takeaway is OK!

Well, I've started this coffee cart in conjunction with the restaurant I used to work at.



So far I've been playing royalty free independent music, because who can afford to pay corporations that have exorbitant amounts of money even more exorbitant amounts of money for licensing?

If you want to be on my playlist, got some music somewhere, I'll be sure to give you a mention if some passing hipster decides they like it! Because I'm in the gentrified hipster capital Fremantle, Western Australia

So far @budhabuilding has been going down very well, to an empty stormy street mind you, but isn't that half of life? Waiting out the storm!

Heya peeps, there's not much going on in the hospo world out there! Restaurants can't open yet, but takeaway is OK!

Well, I've started this coffee cart in conjunction with the restaurant I used to work at.



So far I've been playing royalty free independent music, because who can afford to pay corporations that have exorbitant amounts of money even more exorbitant amounts of money for licensing?

If you want to be on my playlist, got some music somewhere, I'll be sure to give you a mention if some passing hipster decides they like it! Because I'm in the gentrified hipster capital Fremantle, Western Australia

So far @budhabuilding has been going down very well, to an empty stormy street mind you, but isn't that half of life? Waiting out the storm!

I think it's been tough on musicians who play clubs. I used to earn decent money playing on the weekends. Most of the clubs in New York State  had ASCAP sticker on their doors so we could play any song we wanted.  I miss those days.

I'm more than a bit dismayed about the state of the music industry. Technology has hurt revenue and as the pie has shrunk the slices that go to the artists are even thinner.

This COVID-19 thing is awful. One of the worst parts for me is not knowing especially with the conflicting information we get here in the US.  We need a cure but I suspect big pharma is looking for a way to manage/exploit it. The US has 4% of the world's population and 25% of the cases.

Stay safe!

@Monty Cash Music 
I mean NS has music up but I don't know if it's the kind of thing you want to play.
I guess I don't really know how it works exactly - Spotify bad? Soundcloud good? 

Speaking of the state of all things. We have gigs cancelling end of August already! 
When we "open" on May 20th outside seating at restaurants is allowed with masks and social distancing?! 
What the heck?     How you going to drink a glass of wine and eat a plate of spaghetti while wearing a mask? I'm going to have to make a mask that goes around the microphone for Melissa to sing into...….      

@Bill from November Sound

Thanks Bill, I'm into mixing it up for the cafe so, no problem I'll pop your music on sometime.

I just need the explicit consent of the copyright owners of the music.

Well, we're opening up the restaurant in Wednesday week, it will be interesting - 20 people max gatherings. Add two musicians and a couple of staff. Well, we could create isolation chambers out of toilet paper and glad wrap! haha

This entire covid debacle is riddled with corruption and now not just conspiracy nuts are questioning the veracity of the statistics and the convenient restructuring of society that is being implemented using this over-rated virus.

They've had protests in Berlin, not against the virus but against the removal of individual rights that the government has conveniently slipped away under our noses using Covid-19 as a cover. See this article regarding a lawyer that stood against it - her story is illuminating - https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/coronavirus-lockdown-german-lawyer-detained-opposition

Meanwhile, anyone and anything that questions the mainstream narrative is immediately thrown into the extremist box by the 'neo-intelligent thinker' or considered mentally ill (lol) - https://peakd.com/hive-174578/@montycashmusic/the-extremist-labelling-technique-of-the-current-media-narrative-dictated-belief-system

We're living through an information war that threatens to take away our very way of life.

Google and facebook are actively and publicly stating that they are censoring all perspectives on Covid-19 that are not in conjunction with the World Health Organisations directives. We didn't trust the powers that be when they were poisoning our food, nor when they made an industry out of cancer, and now we trust them for this? If ever people are at the brink in their lives where they actually choose to be an individual, this is the time now.

Fear to die and live in this 'future society' walling up around your with your tacit consent, or give up your fear of death and truly live.

And if you need to box me as an extremist and ignore me. That's fine. I don't need this forum. What's at stake here is far greater.

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Aside from this, yes, more music please... users of the earth

This debate illuminating the issues in South Africa is about the price of the suffering of people due to an economic depression versus the harm of the virus itself.

South Africa is not the only place where this debate is going on and it's not a matter of left versus right. It's about logic.

If you think you've got it hard in your first world country, consider South Africa or other larger third world countries.

It's so sad when they show that huge line of people down the road awaiting bags of food. 

I know I don't "have it hard".   

Really sad.

@Bill from November Sound

What's worth noting here is that these people are 'risking their lives' by going out and lining up in a non-social distancing manner waiting for welfare that is only necessary because of a collapsing economy. It doesn't matter what side of the fence of 'the facts' you are on, this doesn't make any sense. You have a much higher chance of getting killed by something else that we already participate on a daily basis in modern society (for example, driving a car) than of Covid-19. Many people in SA are forced to isolate in small mudhuts. I was in South Africa in 2008 and discovered it has a great level of poverty as well as affluence. There are fields of mudhuts and then on the other hand, one of the biggest shopping centres I've seen in my life in Durban.

SA is one of the more extreme examples of what is happening in the world on a daily basis. Then consider, that yet other places are worse. How can we in our first world affluence justify expecting the world to simply separate and obey?

The next point to mention is that the actual data on infection and casualty statistics of covid-19 that are coming out now (not the projected statistics) are as low as, or lower than, the common flu.

The initial model by the WHO was a projected model, which would have been correct - if it was correct. It was not based on actual data but on projected data based on the response in China. There have not been nearly as much infections or casualties as projected and localities that have not adopted extreme social restructuring to isolate individuals like Sweden and Japan have only suffered fractionally higher statistics and may actually fare better in the long-run - also without domestic issues and health concerns caused by the stress of isolation itself and without the economic fallout.

This entire thing stinks and each individual must do their own research to really discover for themselves what is truth.

Here is a censored video by qualified immunologists on the issue (on an uncensorable platform 3speak):
https://3speak.online/watch?v=rok-sivante/ixqwogmi

Here's another video by another qualified MD regarding the inaccuracy of the testing methods for Covid-19 :
https://peakd.com/news/@shepz1/a-m-d-speaks-and-speaks-sense

We have to accept the possibility that we are currently experiencing a planned economic collapse. I'm not talking about conspiracy, I'm talking about what is happening in front of our faces.

Having said this, there are many side-benefits to this whole thing like - less air pollution. Eco-fascism is a popular term for would-be extremist labellers that's bandied around like jehovah's witness flyers these days.

Let's face it - there is no left, there is no right, there is simply logic, the actual data and the way forward.

Community is the only way forward, true community... but first comes individual conviction.

Do I hear South Africa?
They speak Dutch overthere:



Enjoy.
Kind regards, Gus

If you want to be on my playlist, got some music somewhere, I'll be sure to give you a mention if some passing hipster decides they like it! Because I'm in the gentrified hipster capital Fremantle, Western Australia

This thread has gone a bit sideways... although the COVID debate is indeed a connected issue.

Regarding the request from @Monty Cash Music  for “free music” not sure how that works... as @Bill from November Sound  questioned “SoundCloud good? Spotify bad?” Also BandCamp allows a few listens for free. If you want a free download of any of my music, let me know and I will make it happen.

Now.. as for the side debate... here is a bit of logic from someone from New Hampshire... the “Live Free or Die” state (says so on the license plates!)

Sovereign rights of the individual come first. In order to protect the rights of the individual: The prime purpose of government is defense, from all enemies, foreign, domestic or otherwise (like the virus... and government for that matter!)

With freedom comes responsibility. Do no harm to others and you are free to do as you please (that’s the social contract)

Individuals are free to believe what they believe... if you believe you are not going to die from the virus by socializing then then it’s easy to claim that the economy is more important than (place your estimated number of deaths here) However... if you believe that socializing does not put others in danger of dying... well... there’s the debate. 

Do you believe the virus doesn’t spread... and that people are not dying? Maybe you believe the economy is more important than the number of people who will die? Fair enough... but that’s not about Freedom... that’s Socialism.

As for me... I’ll stay home until there is a safe path... testing, tracking, vaccine, medications... herd immunity... whatever... I’ll make that decision based on my Freedom to believe what I believe. In the mean time I’m not risking spreading this virus to others.... no matter what they believe.

As for those who believe their Freedom is more important than the risk of spreading it to others... well they will add to the statistics... the virus doesn’t care what you believe.

Logical?💁

Well @1roomstudio
I suppose the idea that people can decide for themselves is probably best.
New Hampshire is surprisingly locked down for a "live free" state. CT, amazingly, has a plan to re-open. I'm guessing NH has to worry about being vacationland for MA, CT, NY people.
If you watched the first video that @Monty Cash Music posted .... it's sad.
Really. Locked down townships with terrible police brutality and crowds of people waiting in miles and miles of lines just to get food.     
Those people don't have a choice. Really sad.
We are very blessed to be here.

Well @1roomstudio
I suppose the idea that people can decide for themselves is probably best.
New Hampshire is surprisingly locked down for a "live free" state. CT, amazingly, has a plan to re-open. I'm guessing NH has to worry about being vacationland for MA, CT, NY people.
If you watched the first video that @Monty Cash Music posted .... it's sad.
Really. Locked down townships with terrible police brutality and crowds of people waiting in miles and miles of lines just to get food.     
Those people don't have a choice. Really sad.
We are very blessed to be here.

Don’t misunderstand me @Bill from November Sound  or @Monty Cash Music ... I’m not suggesting that choosing to go get food to feed your family is wrong, or miss guided. Different circumstances warrant different solutions.

My point is that,  before one chooses the Freedom to risk their own life, consider  your responsibility to not risk the lives of others. This is the New Hampshire position.  (So to speak)

The Connecticut position (so to speak) is more of the Socialist position in that “x amount of people dying is a cost we, as a Society,  are willing to bear.” I believe most of the individuals who are dying don’t agree with that equation. I’m not saying Socialism is bad... far from it. I’m just saying don’t confuse it with Freedom of the Individual.

Of course all of this assumes one has a choice....when there is no choice (as in  South Africa) then it’s no longer about Freedom or Socialism... it’s about survival of the fittest....  which is terrifying.

We are lucky indeed here in America.... we still have a choice... choose carefully.

well @1roomstudio  they say it's bad to talk about politics or religion. Sadly C 19 has become both.
I can't say I really understand your mixture of political philosophies.
But that's okay.
Open mind is the way to be.
To call CT socialist is not a surprise here. CT is considered heavier restrictions but our governor is trying to line up with RI, MA and NY as much as possible since we're such a small state.

The thing is, unlike probably any other place in the USA,  once we're born here we can never leave.   
People from other parts of USA think it's crazy. 

What I personally see here is more people out than ever despite all the restrictions. I don't know if you see this up there? I mean I live in the woods but if I do have to go out = crazy traffic, insane amounts of people when I drive by any stores, vehicles, people everywhere ..... I can't imagine what it's like in the more populated areas down near the NY metropolis. 
 
We're going to CDC phase 1 on 5/20. What's the plan up in NH? Have they told you anything? 
 

It’s a fair and open-minded debate... I appreciate that.

My philosophy is simple. Before exercising your Freedom as an individual... first consider whether your actions might endanger others.

My heart goes out to people around the world who don’t have the luxury of that choice...

What happens next in New Hampshire?.. well, I’m from New Hampshire, but I live in California. Most of my family lives in  NH and we talk nearly everyday.
It looks like they are going to wait a bit longer. I can tell you that, in general, people there think about friends and family first.... the “economy” is something people do in Massachusetts... (With apologies to my family in Massachusetts!)

Joking aside... thank you again @Bill from November Sound for a reasoned discussion. 🙏

@1roomstudio

Firstly for the music, like I stated, if I have the express permission of the copyright owner it does not matter which source. So, if your music is on soundcloud, soundcloud is not the copyright owner you are. And when I say 'free music' I am not expecting people to just give me music... it's a misnomer. This industry from my perspective has destroyed the accessibility of real music.

This discussion has indeed gone sideways but that is not the matter.

Belief, has nothing to do with it. The facts are there, the statistics that exist now, show the corona virus is no worse than the flu. The projected statistics at the beginning (not actual data) were what predicted such dire circumstances.

The amount of deaths, stress and hardship on top of this caused by economic collapse and isolation (all the people not going to hospitals for regular and serious ailments and dieing at home as a result; as well as the significant rise in domestic abuse to from many professional's perspective both left and right of the bipartisan system - is not worth the cost.) When I say 'cost' I do not talk about money, I'm talking about human lives, and quality of life. This is the real cost. The economy is also closely linked to this.

There has not been a democratic decision to 'lockdown'. Yet most just accept it.

Here is a list of articles regarding the present statistics:
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

Here's another resource:
https://questioningcovid.com/

The main issue with changing the public mind is fear. Many people believe they're intelligent by shaming those with other perspectives - 'stay home' and 'do the right thing', 'aren't you endangering other people'? It is no one's wish to harm anyone. But the actions taken far outweigh the level of threat.

The man sitting alone in a park in Melbourne was not contaminating anyone, yet he was charged for breaking the law by sitting on a park bench. The family that might avoid a picnic, who would otherwise be stuck inside a small insular home watching netflix, do so, because they would be breaking the law. There is something very wrong with this.

There was a flu in 1968-69 called the Hong Kong flu. One million people died, it still spreads today. Within that period they did not lockdown, infact they had Woodstock - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu

There are so many inconsistencies and absurdities to this ritual of control we are experiencing for this 'pandemic' and yet the majority have just decided to jump the gun of their freedoms when told to do so. It is unfortunate, but as many as would think themselves independent free-thinkers have proven themselves otherwise, contaminating their research with emotion.

Feelings and belief, should have nothing to do with facts.

It is now more important than ever to do your own research.

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There are certainly many positives to this situation as well. For example, less carbon emissions and also a period of time for more family time and introspection.

It's certainly an interesting socio-political climate, we find out in times like these who people really are.

We are now likely more susceptible to media control than ever before in the history of humanity because of the isolation, the lockdowns and our access to technology.

If you want to learn about group psychology, pick up a text book. The way the human behaves in groups is unoriginal and the patterns are consistent throughout history.

I wish you all luck on your individual study of the facts and what you want to make of them. I feel this post requires no further comment from me regarding the issue.

You have my express permission to use my music at your cafe in the manner you described.

Regarding facts... reality is one thing... perception is everything. People don’t make decisions or take action based on facts.... they  react emotionally to what they believe. We all live with the results.

You are a smart educated reasonable man. I agree with nearly everything you have said regarding people’s rights. I don’t agree with some of your stated facts. You believe them... I don’t.... so goes the world...

Onward!