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a song that needs lyrics.... help?
on: June 26, 2019, 15:42:53
not sure if this should go in collaborations or here.

but i think my fave song and melody that iíve written is this track.
https://soundcloud.com/blackbauble/the-great-balloon-song

i have tried several times over more than a decade to come up with lyrics, but they never seem to do justice to the emotion of the melody.

anyone think they can give me a nudge?
or be my hal  david, (not that iím burt bacharach!)

ignore the title, itís a working title.  hope you like the track

(iím hoping no one says ďoh this is a famous melody from a show tuneĒ or some such because it does feel very familiar and rolled out of my head very easily!)

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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #1 on: June 26, 2019, 17:49:59
Lots of potential with this one.

Can you come up with a word or two that might describe the feeling that springs forth from the emotion of the melody when you hear it?

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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #2 on: June 26, 2019, 18:07:08
great thread @lu77  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: i hope someone can help you to get you started on the lyrics, propose lyrics

this could be a job for @DonMar, a lyricist from Canada who lives in the netherlands at the moment (i believe)
or for @smajor, he writes many lyrics with othersongwriters


Great tune @lu77   ::thumb:: ::thumb:: in fact the lyricless singing... works very well also in my opinion  ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb::

would also be nice, in my mind, if you have a drumbeat kicking in halfway the track

anyway....kitcheneers, kitchenettes and kitchenistas....help @lu77  out with the lyrics ...i can not write lyrics at all, but many others out here are pretty good at it

btw we could make this into a Kitchen songwriting challenge....  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
that contestants have to come up with a lyrical idea for this tune ...and @lu77 , gets to pick the winner? (in stead of having a voting poll about it)

anyway, thanks for sharing  ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb:: @lu77
and sorry for my rambling  :P ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X :-X :-X

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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #3 on: June 26, 2019, 18:14:01
good question!

VERSE
to me the verse is appreciative and hopeful and happy -  lofty! like an air balloon! (hereís all these good thing, letís hope this continues, things are great)

PRE CHORUS
then the line just before the chorus suggests reaching for something just beyond grasp (but just imagine if we.. wouldnít that be good?), and then reaching again and succeeding (just imagine, letís try it... yes youíll come with me? hooray)

CHORUS
and the chorus is... aspirational (if we could, maybe we will) moving to, joyful..(life would be perfect, weíd be together forever) like the air balloon has taken off and youíre seeing incredible vistas and overcome with emotion, and want to make declarations of love!

then the whole cycle starts again.

I feel like itíd be the best pub song or karaoke song if the lyrics were right... like a footy song! ďweíll always triumph, never a downfall, we always get up we can face anythingĒ

maybe i just donít have the experiences to draw from, maybe itís about proposing to someone and spending their lives together...

or maybe itís about an octopuses garden in the shade!

iíd feel sad if it were a challenge and lots of people didnít get picked, but anyone interested of course iíd be happy to share credits and find a way to get it studio recorded... beyond me singing into my phone!



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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #4 on: June 26, 2019, 23:14:48
Fruitful sketch.

here are some thoughts:

here comes the balloon
a-drift on the trade wind,
signing off on gravity
will we ever get back?

@Dutchbeat - good idea to make it a challenge and change the voting procedure into a one-person jury.


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #5 on: June 27, 2019, 00:08:32
We're floating above the clouds
We're floating above the clouds
Don't ever look down
Don't ever look down

Take me away
Take me away

Take me away

Until we reach the ground
We're on the ground


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #6 on: June 27, 2019, 12:52:39
i see that my balloon imagery has infected you!

i did find that description process of what each part of the song felt like really helpful, it might even help me find a breakthrough with the song,

i especially like the way  realkevmís lyrics fit strongly with the chorus syllables and a lack of fear to repeat a line which i think suits this songís style!

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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #7 on: June 27, 2019, 15:34:19
« Last Edit: June 27, 2019, 18:13:20 by lu77 »
of course talking about it made me want to have a go too so i had another effort last night on a completely left of field topic - my dad who passed four years ago. the problem is for such a universal tune/melody i donít know how relatable the lyrics are nor do they have that sing along gusto...

VERSE 1
 itís always tough between just you and me
And now youíre gone
I know that you
Wanted much more
I know iím
not what you thought
You dreamed of more

CHORUS
itís just the three of us
no one can divide us
Mum me and you
And the dogs too

Im never happier
Knowing iíve got you there
here in my heart
never apart

VERSE 2
I might not be
the best kid on the block
oh how I tried
You worked hard
for us all
With  your charm
everyone falls
But few get through your walls

CHORUS
Each night I dream of you
And of course mum too
And both the dogs
On our laps like logs

Im never happier
Knowing iíve got you there
here in my heart
never apart


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #8 on: June 27, 2019, 16:54:07
the problem is for such a universal tune/melody i donít know how relatable the lyrics are nor do they have that sing along gusto...

All that may be true to a point.....but these are very good lyrics. If you think they don't fit this one you could work  up another melody for them.


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #9 on: June 27, 2019, 18:16:35
the problem is for such a universal tune/melody i donít know how relatable the lyrics are nor do they have that sing along gusto...

All that may be true to a point.....but these are very good lyrics. If you think they don't fit this one you could work  up another melody for them.

thatís kind that you like the lyrics, i think there are some strong moments in there.

i find it very hard to write about dad, thereís so much to say,  more like an essay than lyrics.


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #10 on: June 27, 2019, 21:37:47
hi @lu77 , it is good to see that you seem to start conquering your lyrics writing block on this song.... ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb::

i agree with @Leonard Scaper , these are some great lyrics  ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb::

go for it!  :dance: :dance: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:


Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #11 on: June 27, 2019, 22:06:44
ya know @Dutchbeat  ?  .. I was almost thinking this could be a kitchen challenge to come up with lyrics for this song ...... but then @lu77 had to go and ruin it with these:

AWESOME LYRICS!!!!
You go @lu77 !!! This song is going to be great!  :)
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November Sound is based on the Mother, Father & Son musical trio of Melissa, Bill & Will. I'm the father so anything I post will have my wife singing and/or my son playing percussion.


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #12 on: June 27, 2019, 23:43:53
oh, sorry

thanks for the compliments everyone....

still not so sure myself.


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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #13 on: June 28, 2019, 01:08:43
An interesting thread and lots of good stuff already posted here which I won't add to.

One thing I wondered about if you are stuck for lyrics is the combination of changing from guitar to say keyboards and  / or slowing down the tempo a bit ?

I've sometimes got a melody and been stuck for words, changed instruments or tempo and something has appeared for me lyrically.  Sometimes we can get so attached to one an idea we can't take a look at it from another direction.

It is worth saying you lyrics come across very strongly. I think you have written a different song here though.
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Re: a song that needs lyrics.... help?
Reply #14 on: June 28, 2019, 11:38:33
agreed the challenge is still on... writing lyrics that match the tone of the music....



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