• Bible Belt (Finished Version)
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Bible Belt (Finished Version)
on: October 26, 2013, 17:01:41
Hi,

I posted my original "me-and-a-thrashed-acoustic guitar" version on the WIP section a couple of weeks ago and I've just finished recording it properly (well, for me anyway). This made me realise why I prefer writing to recording - it's like pulling teeth trying to get them sounding remotely like what I hear in my head. I really liked this song when I wrote it but after hearing it about a hundred times while recording it, I hate it now  Cry

Anyhow, I'd appreciate your thoughts on whether this works as a song, as a performance and as an arrangement/production. Many thanks for listening

https://soundcloud.com/alan-walker-4/bible-belt-finished-version

It's about the private deception and human frailties that lie behind the public Bible Belt values in the southern U.S. Inspired by a sign I saw outside a typical white painted Baptist chapel in Tennessee last year - "Dusty Bibles Lead To Dirty Lives".


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2013, 08:07:32
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 09:00:28 by Kafla »
Really nice Alan - a little ' country roads '

Some do the instrumentation is really brilliant - slide and lead guitar , the harmonica

I thought your voice sounded a little croaky - like you had a a sore throat or a cold coming on - maybe I am wrong but it lost a little resonance

I really love this piece overall - it's one if your best - lyrically is very very strong - great images , superb

As it's a topic of discussion I thought I would mention that some of the rhymes are a a little loose - Tennessee and degrees ,well and belt , fool and spoon for example although I also concede that overall the rhyming here is excellent and does add considerably to the craft if this song - I hope you don't think I am being naughty here - t's worth discussing but I mean no malice I promise  ::) 

Seriously top work Alan - I enjoyed this a lot  ;D


Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #2 on: October 27, 2013, 11:08:04
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 12:50:55 by cheff daniel »
johnny cash comes to mind, and thats a compliment. i think the recording is very nice and sparingly filled in. rhyming does'nt bother me much, when its always a perfect rhyme imo it will sound very dull and robotic. good job.

dan


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #3 on: October 27, 2013, 15:31:28
Hello Alan
For me one of your best songs ....... no the best one.Your singing is perfect and I whish I could play the guitar like you do.I like it very much. Can?t say it exactly but your singing is in this song better than in the further ones.I think you have trained a bit. ;D ;D
Thank you for this wonderful peace of music and for its perfect delivery .
Alexander


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 09:05:17
Hi Alan,

Strong song this one. Just a shame you couldn't work the words that inspired you into the song. But, as always, you write with such a poetic flair. You are the lyricist on this forum that inspires me the most when I try and write something where the lyrics are key. As soon as I get stuck I ask myself, what would monte write here???

Musically, I thought the chorus was great though would have liked some harmonies going on in there, maybe hint at a gospel feel? you know, don't just tie it down to the bible belt, lash it down good and proper. But having said that, its almost sacrelidge to detract from your quality vox.

The verse really hung their hat on the fantastic lyrics, The pause on the last line, I am not so sure about but then I havnt listened to the song as much as you so it would probably feel perfect after a few more listens.

Great song though, really loved it. The voice and the lyrics are the selling point.

Allan.

PS gave you some good karma for this one :)
Part time musician, photographer, astronomer, computer pragramer and husband.


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 12:39:22
Hi Alan,

The lyrics sold me on this straight away. I think it's polished up really well.
I'd perhaps have the drums up a little louder, but i know what a pain in the rear they can be to get them just how you want. The playing and vocal were as good as ever. Still waiting to hear that scooped mids, overdriven guitar though. :)

Cheers,

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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 17:41:10
Hi Alan

The two guitars sound lovely together.  Very crisp!  I'd increase the volume of the drums just a little.  I like the rhythmic contrast that occurs between the first two sections and the third.  This is a repeating feature throughout and I think it works well.  There's so much to like about this.  It reveals it's secrets with repeated listens.  Great instrumentation and fine lyrics. 

At times, I was wanting to hear the lead acoustic panned to a different position and also sitting further down in the mix.
Having said that, I enjoyed this so much! :-)

Paul


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013, 19:12:40

 hey Alan,

 every one knows my thoughts on your vocals
 they are second to no one,
 if i'm honest i'm surprised your not a pro

 the lyrics you've put together here are breath taking
 real feeling and depth
 gives you the feeling of the place and what's happening

 truly talent at it's best,

 my only thing was the last line drawn out
 for me I think it would suit better the same as the rest

 but that's just my preference on the song

 a real pleasure to listen to mate well done

                                                tony.


 


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 17:32:54
it is great, a great song...very catchy, in this more upbeat version it becomes happy

the bare version was perhaps more fitting the lyrics????
Don't get me wrong, you know, i like a lot of things going on in the arrangment, but it sounds a bit too happy / upbeat for the lyrics, perhaps?
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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 21:02:24
Thanks everyone who commented.

Kafla - re the vocals. I was deliberately trying to sound careworn and exhausted by the whole experience of being cheated on. My usual velvet tones would have been wrong for this song. I'm happy with the rhyming - it sounds close enough to me and I'd rather it was that way than trying to shoehorn words in just to make an unrealistic but perfect rhyme.

Dutch - The reason why the accompaniment is fairly upbeat is that the guy has actually made a great decision "cutting loose the ties that bind", "my soul is sanctified, I'm walking on the sunny side" he's a happy man to be leaving and it's with a sense of relief. I tried to inject some pain into the vocals to balance it up but that came over as croaky and as if i had a cold. Sometimes you just can't win  ::)

This song has had more plays on Sound-cloud than anything I've done over the past year so I'm happy with that. Once again thanks to all those who took the time to listen and comment.

M


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 22:29:05
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 22:32:23 by Kafla »
Thanks everyone who commented.

Kafla - re the vocals. I was deliberately trying to sound careworn and exhausted by the whole experience of being cheated on. My usual velvet tones would have been wrong for this song. I'm happy with the rhyming - it sounds close enough to me and I'd rather it was that way than trying to shoehorn words in just to make an unrealistic but perfect rhyme.

Dutch - The reason why the accompaniment is fairly upbeat is that the guy has actually made a great decision "cutting loose the ties that bind", "my soul is sanctified, I'm walking on the sunny side" he's a happy man to be leaving and it's with a sense of relief. I tried to inject some pain into the vocals to balance it up but that came over as croaky and as if i had a cold. Sometimes you just can't win  ::)

This song has had more plays on Sound-cloud than anything I've done over the past year so I'm happy with that. Once again thanks to all those who took the time to listen and comment.

M

You know that's the beauty of music - it's a blessing and a curse at the same time - everyone hearing something different and taking something unique from the music

You have reached such a good standard that everyone gets a little nit picky - wanting you to be perfect

I think it's every songwriters holy grail to write the perfect song - and for a few hours after you have finished I am sure we all think we have

Then the song loses a little shine and we want to write something better

More perfect  ::)

Well that's how it works for me     8)


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 23:11:31
yes, i know that feeling, Kaf

just to be sure...i think Alan's song here is outstanding and perfect

just projecting my experiences and feelings on religion, i understand, and....i liked the overertly sad version better
because of that, i think

oh well  :P :P :-[ :-[


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Re: Bible Belt (Finished Version)
Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 23:17:02
yes, i know that feeling, Kaf

just to be sure...i think Alan's song here is outstanding and perfect

just projecting my experiences and feelings on religion, i understand, and....i liked the overertly sad version better
because of that, i think

oh well  :P :P :-[ :-[

I too think it's brilliant

Sometimes things get lost in the internet translation , even when you are a native speaker  :P



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