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Blue Guitar
on: June 15, 2019, 03:20:38
The Old Guitarist, a painting by Picasso, influenced Wallace Stevens to write The Man With The Blue Guitar which led PK Page to write another poem, The Blue Guitar...and then @Pleudoniem recently  reminded me  of that guitar  of the mind.
I read the poems, borrowed part of one line from Wallace Stevens and went off on my own tangent. Maybe that`s like "sampling" in a literary way?
My co-conspirator Scott plays his Les Paul.
Adding strings I always find tricky on a mix- your comments on that or  other things about the song are appreciated.

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   Blue Guitar


so many moons
prisoners of the sun
we still turn for you
the waterwheel drinks
while its spun

if there is no ship to see
in passing morning clouds
why do we cling to dreams
like sailors
in the shrouds

I cannot play things as they are
in the sky I hear a blue guitar

as long as I`m spared
strumming colours bending light
sing the rainbow in curved air
the orchestra of birds
takes flight

bells in the rain
a note for joy key for pain
songs beyond sane

I cannot play things as they are
in the sky I hear a blue guitar
in the sky I hear a blue guitar

© Robert Cordrey June 2019


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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #1 on: June 15, 2019, 09:34:38
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 09:40:36 by LePlongeur »
I love it!
Takes some time (I think) for you to get in the swing/mood.
Almost psychedelic!
His LP doesn't have P90's, I guess?
Some version of PAF's is what I hear. But what do I know.

The kind of work, where you pick a given starter point is called prompt writing.
On a Dutch/Flemish forum I've initiated that and it amounted to some 4.000 views and  240 contributions.
I've proposed to start something in the same vein here, but with little success.
The Kitchen is very much challenge oriented.
Or my English is not good enough to persuade people.

Anyway: What you do is not stealing. What you do is based on inspiration. What you do you do very good.
Keep em coming! @robertkc
Kind regards, Gus


Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #2 on: June 15, 2019, 12:04:35
@robertkc Haha! Great that you used the poem :) Love it! :) Your song feels like a peculiar mix between The Shadows, The Travelling Wilburys, and The Velvet Undergound. Is that ever possible? Yes it is, just listen to your song :)

I wonder, I feel echoes of Coleridge's Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner as well. Did you happen to come across it as well, when you were investigating?

The technique you used is called 'intertext' or 'allusion' in literary theory, so don't worry, it is an accepted tool and not exactly theft, as long as you do it in a creative way (which you quite did). Somebody who did this quite extensively and magnificently was TS Eliot. Other people who did this: 'Nothing like the sun' is a CD by Sting, but the line was borrowed from Shakespeare's 'My mistress eyes are nothing like the sun'. So, you are in safe and great company :)
Pleudoniem: composer; bass guitarist; guitarist; singer; drummer; tap-guitarist - o, and yes... erm- a bit of keys. Open for collabs.
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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #3 on: June 15, 2019, 12:41:01
Precious lyrics @robertkc  ...
Curious mixture of styles very well used that brings me in several moments colors of Spain when the guitar sounds ...  ::thumb:: ::thumb::
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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #4 on: June 16, 2019, 19:00:43
I love it!
Takes some time (I think) for you to get in the swing/mood.
Almost psychedelic!
His LP doesn't have P90's, I guess?
Some version of PAF's is what I hear. But what do I know.

The kind of work, where you pick a given starter point is called prompt writing.
On a Dutch/Flemish forum I've initiated that and it amounted to some 4.000 views and  240 contributions.
I've proposed to start something in the same vein here, but with little success.
The Kitchen is very much challenge oriented.
Or my English is not good enough to persuade people.

Anyway: What you do is not stealing. What you do is based on inspiration. What you do you do very good.
Keep em coming! @robertkc
Kind regards, Gus

Scott doesn`t usually bother me with info on his pickups/amps & effects @LePlongeur ... he knows its all fuzz & feedback to me :sleepy:
I just give requests like "dirtier, please" :yes:
I almost always write from a one line/phrase in a bubble, old school way. The start point prompt idea is right up my alley- too bad I missed your earlier attempts to get something started .
I`m glad you enjoyed this collaboration.

Robert


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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #5 on: June 16, 2019, 19:09:32
@robertkc Haha! Great that you used the poem :) Love it! :) Your song feels like a peculiar mix between The Shadows, The Travelling Wilburys, and The Velvet Undergound. Is that ever possible? Yes it is, just listen to your song :)

I wonder, I feel echoes of Coleridge's Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner as well. Did you happen to come across it as well, when you were investigating?

The technique you used is called 'intertext' or 'allusion' in literary theory, so don't worry, it is an accepted tool and not exactly theft, as long as you do it in a creative way (which you quite did). Somebody who did this quite extensively and magnificently was TS Eliot. Other people who did this: 'Nothing like the sun' is a CD by Sting, but the line was borrowed from Shakespeare's 'My mistress eyes are nothing like the sun'. So, you are in safe and great company :)

Maybe its that minor/major switch back & forth that puts this song all over the map for you @Pleudoniem .The chorus is quite folky so that could be the Wilbury`s connection.
Ok, so now I`ll have to go read the Ancient Mariner ;) The nautical reference in the lyrics was a leftover line from my last song with Scott
( The Atlas of Remote).
Good to know I`m in illustrious company by employing this way of starting a lyric. Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

Robert


Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #6 on: June 16, 2019, 21:29:17
I liked the guitars and the whole song.  Very western sound.  ::heart::
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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #7 on: June 17, 2019, 01:19:35
This has a great 60s sound @robertkc .

I can hear a psychedelic sound and also as @Pleudoniem points out, a strong Shadows sound as well.

Wonderful lyrics and overall a really nice song.

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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #8 on: June 17, 2019, 12:07:31
I really like the way you write.
The words and melody are lovely.
I wish they were a bit more prominent in the mix.

Guitar is nice

Well done.


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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #9 on: June 17, 2019, 20:27:41
Enjoyed this @robertkc. Those two notes as a riff are very effective. I like how this one grows .

My picky brain feels that the drum comes in too early at 0:34 it sounds out of place. If it comes in at 0:37 when the guitar starts the riff then it makes more sense. The keys just add more interest with dominating. It just adds a bit more weight.

Yes Alternative Rock in it's nicest sense

Good Job

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Re: Blue Guitar
Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 03:32:06
Thanks @shatiks , @Jurgen  for your listens and comments.
@Rightly   I mix vocals lower  for the rock tunes- not buried I hope on this, but I do hear a few spots where they get indistinct... a tweak is likely. Thanks for your comments on the lyrics!
@MrBouzouki  Its not picky to point out something that can be improved - I`ll check out that drum entry... and thanks for noticing the build in the song.

Robert




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