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on: June 19, 2019, 01:55:51
Hi,

This is a song my band recorded at a recent rehearsal - so all live and one take, no overdubs etc which means it's a bit basic and raw.

It's a song about racial identification based on some of my own experiences, growing up mixed race in London in the 60s (not that common then) and also on some experiences told me about the Indigenous people here in Australia.

Where a lot of Aboriginals have light skin but come from their own culture and often have to explain themselves as they "don't look Aboriginal".

The reference in the song "you don't look a full" - refers to being a "full blood" which is how non-Abroriginals sometimes try and rate the level of Aboriginality someone has claim to.

Words:

verse
Iím the sum of my parts
And those parts make me whole
Where those parts from?
Some need to know

No You canít be a full
Or even a third
Canít use fractions
With a background so blurred

Chorus
Labels that classify
Features Identify
But some donít fit
Your outdated identikit

Verse
Your're not one or the other
Walk that line in between
Straddle both camps
Along a ravine

Iím the sum of my parts
And those parts make me whole
Not neat allocations
For your pigeonhole

chorus
Labels that classify
Features Identify
But some donít fit
Your outdated identikit



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Re: Identikit
Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 09:18:14
I've got nothing against a song with some rough edges.
A lovely song, with sparse (I believe the word is) backing. What is there not to like?
So exactly fitting to my taste, I would refuse all fiddeling with artificial bass and what have you and  concentrate on the uniqueness (?) you already have.
This one is going to go on im my head today no end. Lovely video too @Jurgen !!!
Kind regards, Gus


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Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 04:28:48
@Jurgen A good rough demo of a song that should have an edge . The lyrics speak to racial profiling still very much alive even in our supposedly multicultural countries ( I`m in Canada). I could hear the vocal sounding a little  angrier- but that`s maybe more how I feel on the subject. Video has some  telling images.
Enjoyed this :ok: :ok:

Robert


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Reply #3 on: June 22, 2019, 00:34:04
Thanks @robertkc and @LePlongeur  thanks for listening/watching

Robert - yes it's a shame that the lyrics can still have relevance to now rather than the past. And yes I did try to add some emotion the vocals. I'm still very new to singing and I do hold back normally, trying to get that range and project more when I try singing.

Gus - I do like a sparse backing, nowhere to hide!

cheers!


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Reply #4 on: June 26, 2019, 00:10:24
Hey Jurgen, I enjoyed that.  I love that raw unpolished sound! Hypnotic percussion and thought provoking lyrics.


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Reply #5 on: June 26, 2019, 02:49:52
This is a good one @Jurgen and unfortunately very appropriate at the moment.

As @Gus said, it's rawness is a strength so you need to get that across when you come to do a better quality recording.

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Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 08:48:58
This is a good one @Jurgen and unfortunately very appropriate at the moment.

As @Gus said, it's rawness is a strength so you need to get that across when you come to do a better quality recording.

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I bought 'Sarah Smiles' on EP by Bram Tschaikovski at the time. Clearly three demos on a small independent label.
And I've loved that song eversince.
When it was released on LP, it was re-recorded, dolled up with extra guitars and with a serious loss of sponteneous energy (no way of knowing how to write this). This is the one and only reason for why the 'real thing' is really inferior to the demo.

It seems like a huge tasks to keep that freshness. That's why I always ask what goal you have in mind when recording a demo. And why giving attention to the recording quality of the demo is important, since you might need it someday.

I agree very much with @eric craptone, that with all endlessly polished and computer aided recordings, there is/will soon be a large demand for fresh sounding music.

And I have a question for @MrBouzouki: I would write: its freshness instead of it's freshness. Purely manly insticts (cough cough), ie I don't know why. Am I doing something wrong or did The Apple Mafia meddle?

@Jurgen: I still love it. Your song. Your recording.
Kind regards, Gus


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Reply #7 on: June 26, 2019, 09:49:18
Guilty as charged Gus @LePlongeur ... the grammar police are everywhere ;-) ... he he

Yes, in my haste to type something I literally said "IT IS rawness and strength" which is nonsense. It should be its. 

https://www.dictionary.com/e/its-vs-its/

To be fair to me, it was at 01:49 in the morning, my time.  Well spotted Gus :-)


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Re: Identikit
Reply #8 on: June 26, 2019, 13:33:06
I missed this one as well while I was away. I think this live recording thing is a very cool format for your originals and this song really has a lot going for it. I like the drone-ish guitar as it sets up a background that kind of brings me to that landscape.

As usual your lyrics impart something that really demands attention. The one thing I will suggest is to get your vocals up there more in the performance. I like how they ride the musical wave in this one but they could be out front just a little more in the performance as your lyrics are really important in your songs.
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Reply #9 on: June 26, 2019, 20:16:37
Hi @Jurgen

I enjoyed your song. It is shocking to hear a song that deals with the mix, that mixture of races that make a new race. The video has parts that describe very well the supposed "ideals" of many eras in terms of the purity of the race. This makes me very funny because apparently everyone, everyone, comes from the black race. Cool!
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Reply #10 on: June 27, 2019, 00:03:28
Hi @Jurgen the rawness of the recording really works with this style of song. I love how lo-fi it sounds, when things kick in towards the end at around the 3 min mark i'm rocking my socks here dude, Nice one


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Re: Identikit
Reply #11 on: June 28, 2019, 02:34:58
Thank you @DanJames , @MrBouzouki , @LePlongeur , @Mora Amaro La Loba  and @realkevm

I appreciate you listening/watching and your comments.

It's good to hear that rawness is working OK.

I'm a fan of a lo-fi sound and these days it's quite hard to achieve and not add layers, overdubs. It also means accepting mistakes in playing which isn't always easy.

Gus, I remember Sarah Smiles. I've got a 12 inch EP of that song - will need to dig it out. It's a great song.

cheers!


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Reply #12 on: June 28, 2019, 05:26:47
Hi @Jurgen
If 12 inch amounts to the size of a normal LP, then we both have the same EP.
I still am a huge Bram T fan, so I still play it every now and then.
I'll post my favorite Bram track in the Kitchen Cafť, for those Kitcheners who may wonder what all the fuss is about.

And for your music: I hope you'll be able to keep it that way. It's great for its freshness.
Glad that I do something good with the English language.
Kind regards, Gus


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Re: Identikit
Reply #13 on: June 28, 2019, 10:27:44
@Jurgen  :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok:

This rough style on the song contrasts so well with the uniformity and rather dystopic feeling given from the message in the lyrics.

If this song should have been a "vanilla streamlined polished" song I don't think it would work as well, so I like it more because of how it is now.

Feels very authentic, I could buy into the message, and I also like the groove and the tempo variations, got this grunge-ish thing going. Refreshing song with a live feel and something to try and incorporate (as reminder to myself) as songs seems to become very square (at least as I manage to get them) in terms of following tempo exactly. Music needs to be organic as well. This song is a great example of a good musical idea with a message.

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Re: Identikit
Reply #14 on: July 10, 2019, 14:53:21
Hi @Jurgen !
1st great to have you back! I missed your "me " post when I was away and seems weird to welcome you to the kitchen now.... so I'll do it here!
Welcome back to the kitchen!
 :)
Great song! I dig the alt grunge rock vibe .... but your voice adds a soothing and smooth contrast ... and it really works. It's pensive, thought-provoking ... you know? Is it a fight against labels or is it acceptance of how labels dominate our world? .... it's okay don't answer that... it's art.
 :)
Your videos always kind of mess with my mind! So lofi cool ... I love it.
Good show!
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