• Lorraine
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on: June 27, 2019, 01:45:32
Right smack in the middle of my self imposed writing hiatus........I stumbled across....


You've changed
Can do that to you
Does shame
Ever haunt your dreams

It's strange
How the strain
Has cut right through you
Maybe the blame
Should come back on me

Where were you when the sky was falling
Where were you when the ground began to tear
Where were you when the children were calling
Where were you when they built those walls
Where the flowers once grew
And the rain no longer falls



Where will you be when the forests fall
Where will you be when the sky begins to tear
Where will you be when the angels call
And where will you be when those walls come down

You've changed
Did those chains
Do that to you
Will flame
Always fill your dreams


Do you know who you are

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Re: Lorraine
Reply #1 on: June 27, 2019, 18:27:37
Your song from the outskirts worked a spell for me @Leonard Scaper . More questions than answers about the mysterious Lorraine- the hesitations in your melody emphasise that and work... except perhaps in the instrumental break which sounded more uncertain.
Otherwise I really like the twin guitars and, of course you unmistakeable vocal.
If this were mine I might have reversed the foreground/background placement of "lorraine"  with the chorus lyrics...they are strong.


Re: Lorraine
Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 20:03:25
If this were mine I might have reversed the foreground/background placement of "lorraine"  with the chorus lyrics...they are strong.

Excellent observation, Robert....I played with it both ways in fact before settling on having the verbiage slightly in the background. I can't say why....it just felt better to me as it seemed to add some more dynamic interest to the production as a whole.

Thanks for listening and for your comments.

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Re: Lorraine
Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 21:31:20
hi @Leonard Scaper , that sounds good to me  ::headphone:: ::headphone:: ::headphone::

great song  ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb:: ::thumb::

i somoehow had a feeling your sabbatical from songwriting, your selfchosen break from songwriting

wouldn't last.....very long  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

were the guitars staring at you every morning? and every night...saying..."pick me up, pick me up....play me...who knows a song might come out  ;D ;D ;D ;D"

lovely this, nice contrast between verses and chorus, great guitar sound and some low string

aaahhh  ::headphone:: ::headphone:: ::headphone:: ::headphone::
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Re: Lorraine
Reply #4 on: June 28, 2019, 01:01:04
Has the 'Blue and the Green' got you again @Leonard Scaper ? lol

Sometimes breaking the everyday cycles opens up the door wider. ;-)

A nice piece of work and although it has LS elements in it, it does sound quite different too.

Good Job Mister

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Re: Lorraine
Reply #5 on: June 28, 2019, 02:17:50
This is a great song @Leonard Scaper

I really like the words and the imagery in the chorus - some very powerful lines.

The electric guitar sounds great - that's a very nice sound you've got and the restrained playing suits the song really well.


Re: Lorraine
Reply #6 on: June 28, 2019, 12:25:32
@Dutchbeat .....you hit it on the head, my friend......Stella was sitting out and glaring at me. Still, this is the longest I'v gone in years between songs and I felt like it was helpful. Thanks for your comment....I was very pleased with how Stella was ringing out. There are a couple of places in there where she resonated beautifully at the end of a passage.

@MrBouzouki ....yes, the Blue and The Green has a hold on me still. I'm glad you detect some subtle change , even as my style persists.

@Jurgen ..........thanks for your comments, especially that about the electric guitar. That is my Avid Eleven rack sound that I have been sculpting for a few years. I do love my very old Gibson SG as well. As a side note....I switched on the Eleven Rack (which is also my interface) this morning and it filled the studio with a nasty burning smell. Changes are now coming. Might be back to recording the SG through one of my real amps.  :o

@robertkc ........the reason I switched on the studio this morning was to flip around that chorus presentation as you suggest and reevaluate it. That will now have to await the arrival of a new audio interface of some sort.

Thanks to all who have listened.

Re: Lorraine
Reply #7 on: June 28, 2019, 21:05:48
Hi @Leonard Scaper

A song full of questions that anticipate sad answers...
I really liked the feeling of the song wrapped around the guitars, although it's sad.

I think in the chorus your voice saying Lorraine ..
I do not know, I would say her name only once, and then what follows, I think the chorus would be much stronger... ::thumb::
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Re: Lorraine
Reply #8 on: June 28, 2019, 21:21:12
I couldn't get this to play :-\

Might be the player or my Mac?

Re: Lorraine
Reply #9 on: June 28, 2019, 22:18:37
@Mora Amaro La Loba ....thank you for listening, Mora. I'll be revisiting this song when I get my studio back together to look at how that chorus works relative to what both you and @robertkc have observed.

@Rightly .....I do hope you can listen before I get back to this one as you may hear something that I can look at as well. The player works on all of the devices I have listened on. I'll post it on my Soundcloud site tonight and post that link.

About who Lorraine could be and who this seems to be aimed at.........I have only ever know one Lorraine in my life. I have a cousin named Lorraine who I have not seen in 50 years or so.  Interestingly enough....Lorraine was born on the exact same day as I was.  ;)

Re: Lorraine
Reply #10 on: June 29, 2019, 10:44:22
Here's the Soundcloud link:


......including the picture of low rain.  ;)

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Re: Lorraine
Reply #11 on: June 29, 2019, 12:44:53
I got to solve my technical hitch. My master monitor was misbehaving.
The song plays now.

I can't suggest improvements here.
It's quite a sophisticated song, and earthy too.
There's some kind of late medieval thing here, or at least it sounds that way to me.
A pleasure to listen to.

Re: Lorraine
Reply #12 on: June 29, 2019, 23:50:44
Lovely crisp clear sounds., classic LS production. I particularly enjoyed the opening electric licks, very Santana-esque.

Re: Lorraine
Reply #13 on: June 30, 2019, 10:51:37
Thanks for persevering @Rightly and even more so for your appreciation of the song.

@DanJames ........thanks to you as well, particularly for your comment on the electric guitar lead in. It took a few years of hacking about in my Eleven Rack to finally get a recording tone that resonated with me.....Santana-esque pretty much nails what my goal was. With that Eleven Rack now fried just after completion of this song, I now must start over with my new Line 6 HX Stomp which will arrive soon.

I had one of my old tube amps out yesterday and that real amp feeling is an amazing thing.  For recording, though, today's emulation gear works so much better for me.

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Re: Lorraine
Reply #14 on: July 23, 2019, 09:02:50
OK, so I'm going to tell you anyway.
Doubted 20 times.....
Perhaps one time too little.

One of the ones before the love of my life, was called Lorraine.
If you drive south from Luxembourg into France, one of the first real great signs is:

Vous Ítes en Lorraine

That didn't go down too well when we drove south.....
Country Joe and the Fish have a beautiful song about her (name) too.
First loveS die hard.
Love your L too.
Kind regards, Gus

"Who'll Stop Lorraine" - Retro/Travel Comp

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