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The tinkle of money
on: November 30, 2019, 11:42:57
@smajor  wrote the lyrics fro this new song
https://soundcloud.com/oorlab/tinkle-of-money
for the track I tried to build up the attention span by not going for the drums immediately. It has a retro feel due to the slide and mellotron, but attempts to be modern by ways of the reverb and panning.  :makeitup:

This morning I saw her...
 standing up to be counted...
 this evening the shadows have fallen
 down over the hills...
 this is someone
 we won't see again.

 Are you really ready
 for the reality we're facing?
 Are you truly prepared
 for what comes after this?
 Where any one of our lives
 could be betrayed by a kiss.

 Or the tinkle of money.

 She sang, "I dreamed of a world
 where I could fly free.
 I dreamed of a place...
 where I could be me."

 These are the dreams
 of a girl who stood in a stadium
 before one single shot
 blew all these dreams straight out of her head.

 You think you're immune?
I have to ask what makes you think so?
Why do you think you're protected
What special qualities you possess,
where a bullet is unable to find you?

 Are you really ready
 for the reality we're facing?
 Are you truly prepared
 for what comes after this?
 Where any one of our lives
 could be betrayed by a kiss.
 Or the tinkle of money?

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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 14:00:29
Wow @oorlab   @smajor  great work! This song is really sad. Very dark but the music is beautiful!  :ok:
It kind of took my breath away.

@oorlab  you don't colorize any tracks when you mix? Just the default gray? Maybe you could just put them in nice colors before you screenshot it for us? Ha,ha  :D ;D

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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 16:33:44
ha @oorlab  that is very nice, i love that "tinkle of money" hookline. some more repetition of that at the end of the song would be nice, i think

but...very cool yes  :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

@oorlab and @smajor ..is this track going to be filed and competing for the songwriting collab challenge thropy out here on the kitchen?

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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 21:26:45
@Dutchbeat / thank you, on behalf of the team.
Yes, in a next incarnation it should get some repetetive aspects in the last part.
No, this was not meant for the current challenge.

@Bill from November Sound   Ah, what a good idea!!  colorizing tracks. Herewith a colored version. I am not saying I am colorblind but in work I noticed some time ago, that when a certain spreadsheets contain different colours I do have difficulty remembering different meanings attached to it. What color for vocals, which for drums? Red? Blue? Green? I will experiment with it and find out if it affacts the music.
@smajor - do you perceive colours when writing lyrics?


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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #4 on: November 30, 2019, 21:42:02
Hi @oorlab ,

Hmmmm. Sort of. I tend to follow a progression of images and there are often colors involved. I've never really thought about it before. I guess I do. I can't say the colors are especially important, though. I saw the young woman in this song as a Latina with long black hair (stereotypical), but I was more focused on the idea.

Later,
Stan

P.S. The lyric I remember having the most vivid colors in while I was writing it was "Fast Jet"... the whole "I see Mazatlan below" thing.
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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 14:04:28
Hola @oorlab!!!!!

You made a song that could be news, something we see from afar when it happens until ... It happens to us ...
Beautiful and sad lyrics, beautiful when they describe the beauty of what we cannot alter, and sad because they speak of what moves and destroys the world, love and money ...  ::thumb::
I did not know that to live I had to die so many times
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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 00:03:32
@oorlab A song as if all hope will be in vain anyway. You have a liking for political and social messaging, so I am not really surprised by the topic. Even when @smajor wrote the lyric, a theme such as this befits you. I think it's nicely worked out, musically plain and to the point, natural, subdued, and almost bluesy.
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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 13:25:10
I like it in the whole!
I like the lyric and how its sung and especially the mood., thats is so nice captured with the sound. Big thunmb up!  ::thumb:: :)


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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 19:27:39
Pretty strong material @smajor ....and well handled by you, @oorlab . I really like the backing vocals as they add an interesting dynamic to the production.

Nice collaboration.

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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 23:17:51
Many thanks for the comments - means a lot!  @Leonard Scaper  , @Mora Amaro La Loba , @Pleudoniem @Mo
Although I don't know the details of what Stan was describing in the song, I felt connected to the general feel and message that was and will be, I guess : can't buy me love - to quote the fab 4.


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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #10 on: December 02, 2019, 23:24:14
Great collaboration @smajor and @oorlab

It's always good to hear Stan's words come to life and this is really good song.

I liked the title right away as it creates a lot of images and ideas.

Stan - did you come up with the title first?

I remember years ago reading that Bjorn and Benny from ABBA  that they often start with a title.

I've also just read Elvis Costello's book (which is a great book by the way!) and he is often inspired by a title or turn of phrase.

As someone now trying to write songs again, it's interesting to see where the ideas come from.

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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #11 on: December 02, 2019, 23:49:21
@Jurgen  - I looked up the possible title of Elvis Costello:

Unfaithful Music & Disappearing Ink , 2015 - that's it?

Always interesting to read / hear where ideas come from. A friend of mine borrowed to me the newly released Abbey Road box, with a book full of details of how songs came about. She came in through the bathroom window - was a throw away line of a casual remark that apparantly stuck for more than a year before being used in the song.

@smajor  - can you tell how this worked for you here? Title first?
For me the title can change a few times before completion. I am now working on a song at this time  called "Sing me Bring me", but it was called Mango Tango before, and I still may change my mind.
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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #12 on: December 03, 2019, 00:04:25
Hi @Jurgen ,

Thank you for your kind comments :)

I didn't actually start out with the title. The title was a bit of an afterthought.

I watch a lot of oddball videos on YouTube and, without really being conscious of it, I store up a lot of images and awareness of different situations. Some time ago I watched a documentary about the CIA backed coup in which Pinochet took power in Chile in 1973. I was deeply affected by the stories I heard about his reign of terror. Especially the killings that took place in one of the stadiums. From another source I heard about a young woman who was murdered in another South American country for trying to change how her village was run. I now can see I was also thinking of Heather Heyer here in the US. Somehow all that coalesced into the opening image. It was only after I'd written the lines...
... "Where any one of our lives
could be betrayed by a kiss..."

That I thought of the title.

And thank you @Leonard Scaper@Mora Amaro La Loba , @Pleudoniem , @Mo@Dutchbeat , and @Bill from November Sound for your comments and support.

Later,
Stan


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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #13 on: December 03, 2019, 00:21:19
Hi @oorlab ,

I've been thinking about this since you asked me about colors... occasionally I do think of a title first... but that was mostly back in the days when I was trying to write clever lyrics for country songs. And I've also written lyrics based on snippets of conversation (not necessarily the title)... often from the YouTube videos I mentioned above. But more often than not I start with a basic idea (in the case of "Tinkle Of Money" it was the danger I feel we're all in due to the instability of the Trump administration). I then seek out an image that I feel encapsulates the drama. Here I thought of the picture of the young woman who'd been murdered... almost at the same time I remembered the stadium in Chile and put the two together. Just now I realized I started out my poem/lyric for Heather Heyer in much the same way so that was also in the back of my mind.

Later,
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Re: The tinkle of money
Reply #14 on: December 03, 2019, 00:33:09
@Jurgen  - I looked up the possible title of Elvis Costello:

Unfaithful Music & Disappearing Ink , 2015 - that's it?

Yes - that's the one. It's a big book and moves around in time a lot but really works. He has so many stories and knows so many great artists, a real story teller and song writer.



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