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Watch The River
on: November 18, 2019, 19:56:21
This one came on pretty quickly. I had just re-strung my old Stella acoustic. I was playing this riff to break in the strings and it was feeling pretty good so I just fired up the gear and tracked it. I did not set things up or quiet the studio down as I generally do so that guitar track is a little noisy. I still kind of like it for its rawness.

The lyrics came around this weekend and I'm still trying to figure out where they came from. I think I might be channeling Billy Joe MacAllister and the Tallahatchie Bridge......kind of a return to Choctaw Ridge, if you will.  ;)

I'm still messing with the mix so if anybody hears anything out of sorts I'm all ears.  :)

Watch The River
https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=13948310

Watch the river
'Cause I'll be coming home soon
Watch the river
Watch the river
And when it reflects the moon
I will be there soon

It runs wild and free
From our town
In the mountains
But that's not where you'll find me
Look downstream
Where the river meets the sea

Watch the river
Watch the river
Watch the river
'Cause I'll be coming home soon
Watch the river

Yes it runs wild and free
Tumbling down
From the mountains
Wait right there for me
'Cause I'm coming home

Watch the river
'Cause I'll be coming home soon
Watch the river
Watch the river
And when it reflects the moon
I will be there soon
So watch the river


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Re: Watch The River
Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 20:15:23
« Last Edit: November 18, 2019, 20:21:51 by Dutchbeat »
ah listening as i hit play now

Stella sounds Stellar

nice bright, happy sound from her....Stella that is...Mr.Bass also sounds good
the song, is a nice blend of emotions..

ha, that
- silent break -

but...a blend of emotions, the song, and the singer  8) 8) ;D ;D in particular, can both sound warm and loving,
and menacing, threatening even, in a "honey i am coming home.." Shining like of...Jack Nicolson  :o :o :o kind of way

and yes, i am serious, that is what i hear, a continous shift even between these two perspectives

on first listen, while typing, that is  ;D ;D

do i need to go see a psychiatrist?  :P :P
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Re: Watch The River
Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 22:20:57
Really enjoying this one @Leonard Scaper

Has a cinematic feel to me - can imagine it playing over a film scene.

The mix sounds great to me (on headphones) - the guitar is nice and bright and the vocals mellow in the middle. The bass adds a lot as a well, it's a simple addition but a strong one.

Interesting to me as you create such good recordings often with just guitar(s) and voals, no drums and maybe a little bass. That's a skill I think to not overfill a song with loads of layers.

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Re: Watch The River
Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 22:36:06
@Dutchbeat .....you really nailed my feelings about these lyrics as well. I did not so much write them as I let them come from...somewhere.

@Jurgen ....thanks so much for your appreciation of the mix. I'm thinking that the bass guitar feels a little strong and I may try to EQ out a little...something. I'm glad you enjoyed this one and I appreciate the listen from you.  :)


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Re: Watch The River
Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 22:50:10
What I like about the bass is that it's subtle but still effective.

I'll listen on my mac speakers at home (I'm at work and listening on sennheiser HD201s which I think are quite neutral based I think on something @Mar T. mentioned a while back).

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Re: Watch The River
Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 00:08:44
« Last Edit: November 19, 2019, 00:11:56 by Mo »
Nice crystal clear sound where the pannings created a deep sound dimension with the combo of guitar, vocals , piano and chello (its a chello?) 
To me the atmosphere is as an exciting promise. I also like that way how the lyrics/ vocals / pauses are arranged.


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Re: Watch The River
Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 00:18:10
« Last Edit: November 19, 2019, 00:27:26 by Leonard Scaper »
Hey @Mo ....I truly appreciate your comments. That is, indeed, a cello. There are also some strings at other parts.

@Jurgen .....I just did a new mix where I tightened up that bass. I took some mud out and got a bit more precise with the compression. I'll be curious if you still think it has the proper impact.

https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=13948310


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Re: Watch The River
Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 07:25:44
A lesson in being more humble this is for me.
Both your painting a picture music as well as the bass.
Everyone is over the moon when they hear the bass. And at the same time it's the one thing I don't like.

A couple of friends from my family were a band called the Dutch. If you listen to 'This is welfare'. A fantastic band (the first 'western' band to tour China in 1985 I believe) but the bass player always forgot what the bass is for. Fiddling about with chorus effects in the higher registers. And the bass in this song has the same effect on me. I am unable to write anything except what music does to me.
See? Everyone thinks it's great...
So what do I know?

But I love the song to pieces.
Kind regards, Gus




Re: Watch The River
Reply #8 on: November 19, 2019, 10:36:32
Fine song @Leonard Scaper  - mixwise, I'd be interested to hear a more stripped version - for instance, no strings, no reverb on separate parts, but a wee bit on the total, nad halwfway some acoustic percussion.
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Re: Watch The River
Reply #9 on: November 19, 2019, 11:04:57
Once again, you have me smiling, Gus @LePlongeur , I'll look for that song.

@oorlab ......I definitely agree about a stripped down version. This version actually stayed in that guitar and vocals place for days. The problem is that the guitar is really too noisy. It was a sloppy recording session with too much breathing and not a great room sound. I felt that something had to be done if I was going to keep it because I liked the feel of it......so out came the cello and strings.

I think I'll uncase the Martin, set up the room and do an acoustic version. Thanks for that critical listen.  :)


Re: Watch The River
Reply #10 on: November 19, 2019, 13:15:08
this is lovely , but I have to get home to listen to it again to get the full emotional wave of it.
These crappy, little headphones are def. not good enough.
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Re: Watch The River
Reply #11 on: November 19, 2019, 22:39:09
Hola @Leonard Scaper

what a beautiful song and sound!!! Magnífica Stella and wonderful recording!!!
 You reached to do a really moving song!!! ::thumb:: ::thumb::
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Re: Watch The River
Reply #12 on: November 20, 2019, 21:12:24
It sounds good to me as is @Leonard Scaper - the cello and bass aren`t busy and keep the song moving, but, hey, its a very good song with a
mood that`s both refective and a little ominous in that promise of return, so I`ll be listening if you make changes.
Cool arpeggio that opens and inspired the whole and nice repetition in the lyrics; I don`t hear that old country song in this at all!

Robert


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Re: Watch The River
Reply #13 on: November 20, 2019, 21:57:30
@Mora Amaro La Loba .....I'm glad you like this one, Mora. Thanks for always listening.

@robertkc .....I made a few minor tweaks last night before you listened that I think smoothed things out. I'm very glad that you heard the song after them and glad that it strikes you well.

Regarding Billy Joe MacAllister and that bridge.........I had the feeling after listening back and trying to figure where the heck I went with this song that lyrically and mood-wise I was channeling the ghost of Billy Joe who, as we all know, jumped off the Talahatchee Bridge.

@Chris Spruit ....thanks for listening, Chris. I'm glad to hear that it translates fairly well on crappy headphones. I do always check my mixes on computer speakers and less than stellar phones.





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Re: Watch The River
Reply #14 on: November 21, 2019, 10:47:48
You teach me a thing or two, @Leonard Scaper , about American music.
I never heard of the guy, let alone that I knew he jumped off a bridge. Or why for that matter.
Ode to Billy Joe and the guy who jumped were connected? And they made a movie about all this afterwards?
On thanks giving I say thanks that a second hit was never given to the lady. One is already too much. I thought at the time that it was a whining, self indulgent (lyrically vague) song and I was very happy with the first stirrings of punk.

Nevertheless, thank you very much to bring it up and put it all into a new perspective.
The lady who sang the ode must be deeply grateful if she could book you to teach her how to write songs. Thank God for the one hit wonders.

And thank you for this one.
Kind regards, Gus



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