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Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
on: November 05, 2017, 19:01:03
I'm curious to know what platforms kitchen members are using to do their recording / mixing / mastering ?

I'm currently on Windows 7 using Cubase Artist 9.0 with a  Steinberg UR22 interface. I'm typing this though running Linux Debian 9 (dual boot) to :-

1) see if I can use Linux recording tools in place of / in addition to / Cubase.

2) See if I can get on with using Debian for most stuff and use a version of Window 7 (not connected to the Internet) after  2020 when security support finishes for Windows 7. This would be purely to run my DAW

The reason I'm doing this is that I really hate Windows 10 and I hope I can last out until it no longer matters without making the jump. I've heard several people like Rick Beato saying that lots of Apple Musicians are thinking the modern Apple products are poo so the future seems a bit uncertain. ]

It would be great to find out people thoughts on this ;-)





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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 20:15:08
« Last Edit: November 05, 2017, 20:17:31 by Mar T. »
Hey @MrBouzouki , Windows 10 here (no problems here with this windows version, it's rock solid and stable imo)...
I built my DAW PC myself, it has a Intel core i7 (4790k) Haswell processor, 16Gb of RAM and I run the system from an M.2 drive (blazing fast).
All is clocked at a steady 4Ghz (no throttle-ling).
All my audio software and libraries are on serveral Solid State Drives.
I use the Focusrite 18i8 2nd edition for audio interface and I just loooove that interface, the best I ever got!
For DAW software I use Reaper (and a whole bunch of VSTi's and VSTs). The recording latency of this system is 3.6ms , which is just right (we 'humans' will be confused by the delay when latencies grow above 5ms). I've tested all drivers of the system with latency tools, just to make sure there's no bottlenecks.

I'd love to run on Linux as well, but lots of VST/VSTi's I use are not available for that OS.
Why do you hate Windows 10 so much Pete? You can disable all privacy related stuff (if that's the point) and you'll get a (imo) more stable version of windows than Win7..

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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 20:30:10
Cheers @Mar T.

Yes, I know about how to disable the telemetry (and so third party progs do a good job ) - it's more to do with Microsoft moving over to a software as a service model.
When everybody is on-board then so much a month to use most of the programs ? I don't think so.

Since I was in at the beginning with the first PC's I like to own software and not have to keep paying for it, I guess i'm just old fashioned lol.

Anyway, my foibles aside, it would be great to know what Kitchen members are using :-)






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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 21:39:18
Hi @MrBouzouki,

I'm on a reasonably crappy but new Asus laptop running Windows 10 with a PreSonus AudioBox USB 96 Audio Interface...latency is noticeable when monitoring but that doesn't really matter as I can hear my guitar if I need.  I did used to use my not as bespoke but selectively purchased "DAW desktop", but I guess I didn't get selective enough with the motherboard as it eventually became too unreliable to use (I'm not good at "phoning support").  However, the laptop does well enough for me running Reaper with less VSTs than @Mar T., but we both use similar libraries.

I used to run an "all Linux" household (well nearly), back when things were less supported, and a lot of things are feasible now which didn't used to be...but I haven't looked in ages..it looks like Rosegarden is still being maintained, but I'm not sure about VSTs?


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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 23:42:42
Cheers everybody this is getting really interesting already.

I forgot to add I use SSD's too - 4 crucial ones. After my big hard drive crash I swore I would never just use one physical drive again, so in addition to backing up regularly I also have divided my 'real estate' over smaller SSD's. The quiet is wonderful - you forget how you put up with a spinning platter once you make the change to all SSD.




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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 01:31:07
I have a $600 PC running Windows 10. These days I go into Protools 11 through my Avid Eleven Rack as an interface and a guitar amp emulator. There are better interfaces out there for sure but I am not fussy and I don't need many channels. I do have a high quality  microphone and an equally high quality channel strip.

Honestly, any modern day interface will have A/D D/A converters that are fine for what we do.

I have no midi or fancy plug-ins....I just use the stock Digi plugs and track everything in the analog domain.
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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 20:55:42
Windows 7 + Cubase SL 8 + E-MU 1616 Interface. Last year I tried upgrading to Windows 8 but that was a mistake - luckily I was able (with a little help) to de-upgrade it.
For a lot of technical questions I had when setting up the DAW + software I had great help from this forum - http://www.homerecording.be/ - anyone familiar with that platform?
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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #7 on: February 18, 2018, 14:35:44
This thread is not too old to bump back up....is it?  ;)

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I forgot to add I use SSD's too - 4 crucial ones. After my big hard drive crash I swore I would never just use one physical drive again, so in addition to backing up regularly I also have divided my 'real estate' over smaller SSD's.

@MrBouzouki how did you move your OS and stuff onto SSD?
I've added an extra drive for the audio files to go but afraid to make the "big jump" while everything is working correctly.


btw- I'm still using Cubase 7.5 ..... after that no more 32-Bit plug-ins without purchasing a bridge program I guess. I think I still use a few 32 Bit plugins, maybe. Also, what if I go back to my old audio files someday?
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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #8 on: February 27, 2018, 17:41:04
Yo!

I use an M-Audio interface - it's pretty awful and only has two inputs (one for guitar and one for a microphone)

Logic Pro is my weapon of choice in the software department, I find it pretty easy to use and have been doing so since I was 16.

My hardware is the problem though - only have one microphone (an awful dynamic mic that must be 10 years old) however I seem to get some good vocal recordings from it.

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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #9 on: February 27, 2018, 19:27:34
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 19:29:10 by Dutchbeat »
for some reason  ;D ;D ;D ;D.....i think the quad-capture

from Roland also has to be mentioned in this thread ..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i use it, i mean  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 00:51:52
Hi @Bill from November Sound - re Cubase and SSD - my traditional hard drive crash before I joined on here so it was a case of starting again with an upgrade to a later version as I did.

You can always move onto a new drive easily I think if you have a USB e-Licenser like I have.

https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/accessories/usb_elicenser.html

I imagine if you have a soft licence you can re-register on the new drive.

I has to re-download my copy of Cubase following my head crash and reinstall


Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 23:14:18
Hey @MrBouzouki ..... how did you move your Windows OS onto your SSD?


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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #12 on: March 01, 2018, 12:02:52
I think I've confused you @Bill from November Sound.

Basically, I didn't move OS, but reinstalled on SSD due to my hard disk crash.  I'm running a retail copy of Windows 7 that allows even changing to a different motherboard
so that was no problem. 

Since my Cubase licensing is on a USB stick there is no software licence to move from one hard disk to another as ownership of the USB stick proves you have a valid copy.

So really I did bite bullet and I also thought 32-bits ... pah and went for the future with the 64-bit move to Cubase 9 and now 9.5.




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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #13 on: April 01, 2018, 07:28:54
I'm frustrated with all my interfaces and softwares and need someone to come to my house to fix it all! ;)

I used to use the Line 6 Toneport interface with Gearbox built in software, and my DAW was Ableton. I was ok with this back when Windows XP was around, though the volume was always too quiet.

Then I had to get a new PC which had Windows 8 and the Toneport was no longer compatible, so I ended up with an Mbox 2 interface something or other with Protools 11 as well as a newer version of Ableton. I am too technically challenged (aka - stupid) to work out how to really use Protools and also the Mbox cuts out all the time and will suddenly drop all sound. I could never work out why, but now the PC won't find it at all so there is no sound whatsoever.  :(
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Re: Computer Platforms / Software / interfaces ?
Reply #14 on: April 04, 2018, 00:05:34
Hey @monty_lameer , I noticed this post (and a reference to it in one of your other posts).
First problem to solve is to get your PC to recognise the MBox 2 interface. Did you try connecting the Mbox 2 to different USB ports on your pc?
Did you try to reinstall the driversoftware?

That's to start with.. Let me know if that helps progressing to finding a solution..
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