• How do you know if it's the verse or the chorus?
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Re: How do you know if it's the verse or the chorus?
Reply #15 on: August 01, 2018, 22:05:35
« Last Edit: August 01, 2018, 22:10:36 by Zedd »

It's funny though, what @Zedd is saying with ( I'll paraphrase here) "screw up that second verse" ... it's so true. Anybody else have trouble coming up with that second verse?



Hi @Bill from November Sound - ah we really do speak a different language over here.. That's not what that means at all  ;D ;D  I was quoting another songwriter, one who wrote a winning Eurovision entry (not that that's a measure of quality so to speak but he has had success as a songwriter). What he said was:


"Write a verse and a chorus, then f*** away the verse and make the chorus the verse, and write a chorus for the chorus.

I'll translate:

"Write a verse and a chorus, then THROW away the verse and make the chorus the verse, and write a chorus for the chorus.

I guess alluding to the fact that in his opinion both verse and chorus needed to be strong and when you thought you'd done well, you should do better still!

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Re: How do you know if it's the verse or the chorus?
Reply #16 on: August 01, 2018, 22:08:03
Anybody else have trouble coming up with that second verse?

I quite often need a place holder for the second verse as well. I find that the last verse is so important to closing out the song's message so I grind more on that and then fill in the backstory later in the second verse.

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Re: How do you know if it's the verse or the chorus?
Reply #17 on: August 02, 2018, 01:40:28
@Bill from November Sound   I saw this video on songwriting a while ago and this thread brought it to mind, it gets into the chorus a little after the 1 minute  mark. In my own stuff - I know a song needs or requires a chorus but I've written some with none at all (of course no one listens at all)




Vince

Hahaha had to laugh out loud for this statement: ' Don't bore us... get to the chorus '! Would be a nice assignment for our next songwriting challenge!! ;-)



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